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Some things I noticed while reading Trent session XXII, which Card. Ottaviani cited in his intervention to Pope Paul VI on September 25th, 1969 as the primary reason for why the Novus (dis)Ordo is not Catholic. Here are my observations:
  • ch. IV: Most priests offering the Novus Ordo don't use the Roman Canon. Could the other "Eucharistic Prayers" (by far used much more frequently than the Roman Canon) even be considered variants on the Roman Canon?
  • ch. V: Is anything in the Novus Ordo pronounced summissa voce (cf. the Council of Pistoia and Pope Pius VI's bull Auctorem Fidei condemning it)?
  • ch. VII: I don't think any Novus Ordo priests mix a bit of water with the wine prior to consecration.
  • ch. VIII condemns saying the Mass entirely in the vulgar tongue.
  • "Canon VI.—If any one saith, that the canon of the mass contains errors, and is therefore to be abrogated: let him be anathema." Does this apply also to the invention of the new Novus Ordo "Eucharistic Prayers"?
  • This canon—"Canon VII.—If any one saith, that the ceremonies, vestments, and outward signs, which the Catholic Church makes use of in the celebration of masses, are incentives to impiety, rather than offices of piety: let him be anathema."—seems to contradict Sacrosanctum Concilium §34 that "The rites should be distinguished by a noble simplicity", viz., minimalism, because "sumptuous display" (§124) is to be avoided; what is spiritually profitable is to be avoided?
  • And of course "CANON IX.—If any one saith, that the rite of the Roman Church, according to which a part of the canon and the words of consecration are pronounced in a low tone, is to be condemned; or, that the mass ought to be celebrated in the vulgar tongue only water ought not to be mixed with the wine that is to be offered in the chalice, for that it is contrary to the institution of Christ; let him be anathema." sums up most of the above. This is exactly what the Council of Pistoia promoted and what Pope Pius VI's bull Auctorem Fidei condemned.

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